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3

Consider this small document:

documentclass{article}



usepackage{blindtext}



begin{document}



blindtext



blindtext



begin{enumerate}

item%

blindtext



blindtext

end{enumerate}



end{document}

This has two paragraphs outside a list environment, and two paragraphs inside a list environment. I've noticed in this situation that paragraphs outside lists have their first line indented, whereas paragraphs inside lists do not have any indent:

Why does this occur? Can I restore the indentation inside a list?

EDIT: I notice that in lists, by default paragraphs are separated by blank lines. Preferably a solution should also get rid of that. (For context, I'm writing up a solution to an assignment, and nearly every paragraph is inside an enumerate or similar.)

lists indentation paragraphs

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  "why" questions are hard to answer, the list paragraph shape is settable as are the outer paragraphs the standard latex classes chose choose that layout as presumably the original author preferred it that way. you can set listparindent` and other list parameters to achieve other shapes
  
  – David Carlisle
  3 hours ago
  

  
  
  
  


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  @Kurt Thank you!
  
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3

Consider this small document:

documentclass{article}



usepackage{blindtext}



begin{document}



blindtext



blindtext



begin{enumerate}

item%

blindtext



blindtext

end{enumerate}



end{document}

This has two paragraphs outside a list environment, and two paragraphs inside a list environment. I've noticed in this situation that paragraphs outside lists have their first line indented, whereas paragraphs inside lists do not have any indent:

Why does this occur? Can I restore the indentation inside a list?

EDIT: I notice that in lists, by default paragraphs are separated by blank lines. Preferably a solution should also get rid of that. (For context, I'm writing up a solution to an assignment, and nearly every paragraph is inside an enumerate or similar.)

lists indentation paragraphs

share|improve this question

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  Welcome to TeX.SE!
  
  – Kurt
  4 hours ago
  

  
  
  
  


• 
  
  
  

  
  2
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  
  "why" questions are hard to answer, the list paragraph shape is settable as are the outer paragraphs the standard latex classes chose choose that layout as presumably the original author preferred it that way. you can set listparindent` and other list parameters to achieve other shapes
  
  – David Carlisle
  3 hours ago
  

  
  
  
  


• 
  
  
  

  
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  
  @Kurt Thank you!
  
  – bradrn
  3 hours ago
  

  
  
  
  

add a comment | 

Consider this small document:

documentclass{article}



usepackage{blindtext}



begin{document}



blindtext



blindtext



begin{enumerate}

item%

blindtext



blindtext

end{enumerate}



end{document}

This has two paragraphs outside a list environment, and two paragraphs inside a list environment. I've noticed in this situation that paragraphs outside lists have their first line indented, whereas paragraphs inside lists do not have any indent:

Why does this occur? Can I restore the indentation inside a list?

EDIT: I notice that in lists, by default paragraphs are separated by blank lines. Preferably a solution should also get rid of that. (For context, I'm writing up a solution to an assignment, and nearly every paragraph is inside an enumerate or similar.)

lists indentation paragraphs

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documentclass{article}



usepackage{blindtext}



begin{document}



blindtext



blindtext



begin{enumerate}

item%

blindtext



blindtext

end{enumerate}



end{document}

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item properties can be formatted with enumitem. Then you can use listparindent for enumerate environment:

documentclass{article}



usepackage{blindtext}

usepackage{enumitem}

setlist[enumerate]{parsep=0pt}



begin{document}



blindtext



blindtext



    begin{enumerate}[listparindent=1.5em]



        item

        blindtext



        blindtext



    end{enumerate}



end{document}

EDIT: Thanks to @David, you can also set parsep to 0 if you want to get rid of that space.

share|improve this answer

edited 3 hours ago

answered 4 hours ago

Majid AbdolshahMajid Abdolshah

68328

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  Nice! Unfortunately, this doesn't entirely answer my question: I also asked why this behaviour happens. I also notice that this method still preserves that extra horizontal space between paragraphs in the list; do you have any idea how to get rid of that?
  
  – bradrn
  4 hours ago
  

  
  
  
  


• 
  
  
  

  
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  
  @bradrn AFAIK enumerate is kind of old and enumitem gives you more advantage and options comparing to list environments such as itemize and enumerate. However my understanding is enumerate eliminates the paragraph indentation by default. Regarding that horizontal space, I'll have a look.
  
  – Majid Abdolshah
  3 hours ago
  
  
  

  
  
  
  


• 
  
  
  

  
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  
  @bradrn You can always use something like this vspace{-0.1cm} after the paragraph. But it's not the best solution of course.
  
  – Majid Abdolshah
  3 hours ago
  

  
  
  
  


• 
  
  
  

  
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  
  @bradrn the paragraph space is parsep (or parsep in the enumitem interface) so you can set that to 0pt
  
  – David Carlisle
  3 hours ago
  
  
  

  
  
  
  


• 
  
  
  

  
  1
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  
  @MajidAbdolshah In my 'real' code, I'm already using enumitem.
  
  – bradrn
  3 hours ago
  

  
  
  
  

 | 
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1

The reason for this behaviour is that inside enumerate the length parindent is set to zero. So you can not use a simple indent as usual in normal text to get the space of parindent set.

You can simulate the ususal behaviour in normal text with the following code (See <===== for important code):

documentclass{article}



usepackage{blindtext}

usepackage{enumitem} % <===============================================

newlength{enumerateparindent} % <=====================================



begin{document}



setlength{enumerateparindent}{parindent} % <=========================

blindtext



blindtext



begin{enumerate}

setlength{parindent}{enumerateparindent} % <=========================

%showparindent 

%value{parindent}

item%

blindtext



blindtext

end{enumerate}



Version 2:

begin{enumerate}[listparindent=enumerateparindent] % <================

item%

blindtext



blindtext

end{enumerate}



end{document}

and the wished result:

Please see that setlength{parindent}{enumerateparindent} does only work in that enumerate list you placed the command inside ...

If you are already using package enumitem -- as mentioned in an comment -- you can use it to use the same indent defined in parindent with version 2 in my mwe.

The you get the resulting version 2:

share|improve this answer

edited 3 hours ago

answered 3 hours ago

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• 
  
  
  

  
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  
  setting listparindent is the intended way to define the shape of list paragraphs.
  
  – David Carlisle
  3 hours ago
  

  
  
  
  


• 
  
  
  

  
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  
  @DavidCarlisle Thanks, I added it.
  
  – Kurt
  2 hours ago
  

  
  
  
  

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item properties can be formatted with enumitem. Then you can use listparindent for enumerate environment:

documentclass{article}



usepackage{blindtext}

usepackage{enumitem}

setlist[enumerate]{parsep=0pt}



begin{document}



blindtext



blindtext



    begin{enumerate}[listparindent=1.5em]



        item

        blindtext



        blindtext



    end{enumerate}



end{document}

EDIT: Thanks to @David, you can also set parsep to 0 if you want to get rid of that space.

share|improve this answer

edited 3 hours ago

answered 4 hours ago

Majid AbdolshahMajid Abdolshah

68328

• 
  
  
  

  
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  
  Nice! Unfortunately, this doesn't entirely answer my question: I also asked why this behaviour happens. I also notice that this method still preserves that extra horizontal space between paragraphs in the list; do you have any idea how to get rid of that?
  
  – bradrn
  4 hours ago
  

  
  
  
  


• 
  
  
  

  
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  
  @bradrn AFAIK enumerate is kind of old and enumitem gives you more advantage and options comparing to list environments such as itemize and enumerate. However my understanding is enumerate eliminates the paragraph indentation by default. Regarding that horizontal space, I'll have a look.
  
  – Majid Abdolshah
  3 hours ago
  
  
  

  
  
  
  


• 
  
  
  

  
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  
  @bradrn You can always use something like this vspace{-0.1cm} after the paragraph. But it's not the best solution of course.
  
  – Majid Abdolshah
  3 hours ago
  

  
  
  
  


• 
  
  
  

  
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  
  @bradrn the paragraph space is parsep (or parsep in the enumitem interface) so you can set that to 0pt
  
  – David Carlisle
  3 hours ago
  
  
  

  
  
  
  


• 
  
  
  

  
  1
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  
  @MajidAbdolshah In my 'real' code, I'm already using enumitem.
  
  – bradrn
  3 hours ago
  

  
  
  
  

 | 
show 1 more comment

2

item properties can be formatted with enumitem. Then you can use listparindent for enumerate environment:

documentclass{article}



usepackage{blindtext}

usepackage{enumitem}

setlist[enumerate]{parsep=0pt}



begin{document}



blindtext



blindtext



    begin{enumerate}[listparindent=1.5em]



        item

        blindtext



        blindtext



    end{enumerate}



end{document}

EDIT: Thanks to @David, you can also set parsep to 0 if you want to get rid of that space.

share|improve this answer

edited 3 hours ago

answered 4 hours ago

Majid AbdolshahMajid Abdolshah

68328

• 
  
  
  

  
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  
  Nice! Unfortunately, this doesn't entirely answer my question: I also asked why this behaviour happens. I also notice that this method still preserves that extra horizontal space between paragraphs in the list; do you have any idea how to get rid of that?
  
  – bradrn
  4 hours ago
  

  
  
  
  


• 
  
  
  

  
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  
  @bradrn AFAIK enumerate is kind of old and enumitem gives you more advantage and options comparing to list environments such as itemize and enumerate. However my understanding is enumerate eliminates the paragraph indentation by default. Regarding that horizontal space, I'll have a look.
  
  – Majid Abdolshah
  3 hours ago
  
  
  

  
  
  
  


• 
  
  
  

  
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  
  @bradrn You can always use something like this vspace{-0.1cm} after the paragraph. But it's not the best solution of course.
  
  – Majid Abdolshah
  3 hours ago
  

  
  
  
  


• 
  
  
  

  
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  
  @bradrn the paragraph space is parsep (or parsep in the enumitem interface) so you can set that to 0pt
  
  – David Carlisle
  3 hours ago
  
  
  

  
  
  
  


• 
  
  
  

  
  1
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  
  @MajidAbdolshah In my 'real' code, I'm already using enumitem.
  
  – bradrn
  3 hours ago
  

  
  
  
  

 | 
show 1 more comment

item properties can be formatted with enumitem. Then you can use listparindent for enumerate environment:

documentclass{article}



usepackage{blindtext}

usepackage{enumitem}

setlist[enumerate]{parsep=0pt}



begin{document}



blindtext



blindtext



    begin{enumerate}[listparindent=1.5em]



        item

        blindtext



        blindtext



    end{enumerate}



end{document}

EDIT: Thanks to @David, you can also set parsep to 0 if you want to get rid of that space.

share|improve this answer

edited 3 hours ago

answered 4 hours ago

Majid AbdolshahMajid Abdolshah

68328

documentclass{article}



usepackage{blindtext}

usepackage{enumitem}

setlist[enumerate]{parsep=0pt}



begin{document}



blindtext



blindtext



    begin{enumerate}[listparindent=1.5em]



        item

        blindtext



        blindtext



    end{enumerate}



end{document}

share|improve this answer

edited 3 hours ago

answered 4 hours ago

Majid AbdolshahMajid Abdolshah

68328

answered 4 hours ago

Majid AbdolshahMajid Abdolshah

68328

answered 4 hours ago

Majid AbdolshahMajid Abdolshah

68328

1

The reason for this behaviour is that inside enumerate the length parindent is set to zero. So you can not use a simple indent as usual in normal text to get the space of parindent set.

You can simulate the ususal behaviour in normal text with the following code (See <===== for important code):

documentclass{article}



usepackage{blindtext}

usepackage{enumitem} % <===============================================

newlength{enumerateparindent} % <=====================================



begin{document}



setlength{enumerateparindent}{parindent} % <=========================

blindtext



blindtext



begin{enumerate}

setlength{parindent}{enumerateparindent} % <=========================

%showparindent 

%value{parindent}

item%

blindtext



blindtext

end{enumerate}



Version 2:

begin{enumerate}[listparindent=enumerateparindent] % <================

item%

blindtext



blindtext

end{enumerate}



end{document}

and the wished result:

Please see that setlength{parindent}{enumerateparindent} does only work in that enumerate list you placed the command inside ...

If you are already using package enumitem -- as mentioned in an comment -- you can use it to use the same indent defined in parindent with version 2 in my mwe.

The you get the resulting version 2:

share|improve this answer

edited 3 hours ago

answered 3 hours ago

KurtKurt

39.9k850164

• 
  
  
  

  
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  
  setting listparindent is the intended way to define the shape of list paragraphs.
  
  – David Carlisle
  3 hours ago
  

  
  
  
  


• 
  
  
  

  
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  
  @DavidCarlisle Thanks, I added it.
  
  – Kurt
  2 hours ago
  

  
  
  
  

add a comment | 

1

The reason for this behaviour is that inside enumerate the length parindent is set to zero. So you can not use a simple indent as usual in normal text to get the space of parindent set.

You can simulate the ususal behaviour in normal text with the following code (See <===== for important code):

documentclass{article}



usepackage{blindtext}

usepackage{enumitem} % <===============================================

newlength{enumerateparindent} % <=====================================



begin{document}



setlength{enumerateparindent}{parindent} % <=========================

blindtext



blindtext



begin{enumerate}

setlength{parindent}{enumerateparindent} % <=========================

%showparindent 

%value{parindent}

item%

blindtext



blindtext

end{enumerate}



Version 2:

begin{enumerate}[listparindent=enumerateparindent] % <================

item%

blindtext



blindtext

end{enumerate}



end{document}

and the wished result:

Please see that setlength{parindent}{enumerateparindent} does only work in that enumerate list you placed the command inside ...

If you are already using package enumitem -- as mentioned in an comment -- you can use it to use the same indent defined in parindent with version 2 in my mwe.

The you get the resulting version 2:

share|improve this answer

edited 3 hours ago

answered 3 hours ago

KurtKurt

39.9k850164

• 
  
  
  

  
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  
  setting listparindent is the intended way to define the shape of list paragraphs.
  
  – David Carlisle
  3 hours ago
  

  
  
  
  


• 
  
  
  

  
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  
  @DavidCarlisle Thanks, I added it.
  
  – Kurt
  2 hours ago
  

  
  
  
  

add a comment | 

The reason for this behaviour is that inside enumerate the length parindent is set to zero. So you can not use a simple indent as usual in normal text to get the space of parindent set.

You can simulate the ususal behaviour in normal text with the following code (See <===== for important code):

documentclass{article}



usepackage{blindtext}

usepackage{enumitem} % <===============================================

newlength{enumerateparindent} % <=====================================



begin{document}



setlength{enumerateparindent}{parindent} % <=========================

blindtext



blindtext



begin{enumerate}

setlength{parindent}{enumerateparindent} % <=========================

%showparindent 

%value{parindent}

item%

blindtext



blindtext

end{enumerate}



Version 2:

begin{enumerate}[listparindent=enumerateparindent] % <================

item%

blindtext



blindtext

end{enumerate}



end{document}

and the wished result:

Please see that setlength{parindent}{enumerateparindent} does only work in that enumerate list you placed the command inside ...

If you are already using package enumitem -- as mentioned in an comment -- you can use it to use the same indent defined in parindent with version 2 in my mwe.

The you get the resulting version 2:

share|improve this answer

edited 3 hours ago

answered 3 hours ago

KurtKurt

39.9k850164

documentclass{article}



usepackage{blindtext}

usepackage{enumitem} % <===============================================

newlength{enumerateparindent} % <=====================================



begin{document}



setlength{enumerateparindent}{parindent} % <=========================

blindtext



blindtext



begin{enumerate}

setlength{parindent}{enumerateparindent} % <=========================

%showparindent 

%value{parindent}

item%

blindtext



blindtext

end{enumerate}



Version 2:

begin{enumerate}[listparindent=enumerateparindent] % <================

item%

blindtext



blindtext

end{enumerate}



end{document}

share|improve this answer

edited 3 hours ago

answered 3 hours ago

KurtKurt

39.9k850164

answered 3 hours ago

KurtKurt

39.9k850164

answered 3 hours ago

KurtKurt

39.9k850164