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Irrational meter - why the mark of a triplet in 4 half notes


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Can someone please explain to me why the mark of a triplet in this 4 half notes? I understood how to play it but from what i read you can only write triplets on 3 notes like 3 eighths 3 quarters etc...
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    There are whole, half, quarter etc. notes, but nothing that shows third. So, to me, the 4/3 time signature is somewhat pointless, as to show 'proper' notes, they need to have the 'triplet' sign. I reckon it could be written out in standard form and make more sense.

    – Tim
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  • hi Tim thanks but why they need to have the triplets signs?

    – LoveIsHere
    3 hours ago






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    Because there is no notehead shape that alone depicts 1/3 note. there's 1/2, 1/4,1/8, but no 1/3. Same reason as triplets themselves.

    – Tim
    2 hours ago











  • so from your answer, I get that stating the time signature 4/3 is not enough for this? I mean if I saw sheet music like that I would understand from the time signature alone the way I should play it. that is why I am confused.

    – LoveIsHere
    2 hours ago






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    I'm fairly certain that there are better ways to show what needs playing rather than use irrational meters. Judging by the question, I'm not alone.

    – Tim
    8 mins ago
















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Can someone please explain to me why the mark of a triplet in this 4 half notes? I understood how to play it but from what i read you can only write triplets on 3 notes like 3 eighths 3 quarters etc...
See picture
enter image description here










share|improve this question




















  • 1





    There are whole, half, quarter etc. notes, but nothing that shows third. So, to me, the 4/3 time signature is somewhat pointless, as to show 'proper' notes, they need to have the 'triplet' sign. I reckon it could be written out in standard form and make more sense.

    – Tim
    3 hours ago











  • hi Tim thanks but why they need to have the triplets signs?

    – LoveIsHere
    3 hours ago






  • 1





    Because there is no notehead shape that alone depicts 1/3 note. there's 1/2, 1/4,1/8, but no 1/3. Same reason as triplets themselves.

    – Tim
    2 hours ago











  • so from your answer, I get that stating the time signature 4/3 is not enough for this? I mean if I saw sheet music like that I would understand from the time signature alone the way I should play it. that is why I am confused.

    – LoveIsHere
    2 hours ago






  • 1





    I'm fairly certain that there are better ways to show what needs playing rather than use irrational meters. Judging by the question, I'm not alone.

    – Tim
    8 mins ago














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Can someone please explain to me why the mark of a triplet in this 4 half notes? I understood how to play it but from what i read you can only write triplets on 3 notes like 3 eighths 3 quarters etc...
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Can someone please explain to me why the mark of a triplet in this 4 half notes? I understood how to play it but from what i read you can only write triplets on 3 notes like 3 eighths 3 quarters etc...
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    There are whole, half, quarter etc. notes, but nothing that shows third. So, to me, the 4/3 time signature is somewhat pointless, as to show 'proper' notes, they need to have the 'triplet' sign. I reckon it could be written out in standard form and make more sense.

    – Tim
    3 hours ago











  • hi Tim thanks but why they need to have the triplets signs?

    – LoveIsHere
    3 hours ago






  • 1





    Because there is no notehead shape that alone depicts 1/3 note. there's 1/2, 1/4,1/8, but no 1/3. Same reason as triplets themselves.

    – Tim
    2 hours ago











  • so from your answer, I get that stating the time signature 4/3 is not enough for this? I mean if I saw sheet music like that I would understand from the time signature alone the way I should play it. that is why I am confused.

    – LoveIsHere
    2 hours ago






  • 1





    I'm fairly certain that there are better ways to show what needs playing rather than use irrational meters. Judging by the question, I'm not alone.

    – Tim
    8 mins ago














  • 1





    There are whole, half, quarter etc. notes, but nothing that shows third. So, to me, the 4/3 time signature is somewhat pointless, as to show 'proper' notes, they need to have the 'triplet' sign. I reckon it could be written out in standard form and make more sense.

    – Tim
    3 hours ago











  • hi Tim thanks but why they need to have the triplets signs?

    – LoveIsHere
    3 hours ago






  • 1





    Because there is no notehead shape that alone depicts 1/3 note. there's 1/2, 1/4,1/8, but no 1/3. Same reason as triplets themselves.

    – Tim
    2 hours ago











  • so from your answer, I get that stating the time signature 4/3 is not enough for this? I mean if I saw sheet music like that I would understand from the time signature alone the way I should play it. that is why I am confused.

    – LoveIsHere
    2 hours ago






  • 1





    I'm fairly certain that there are better ways to show what needs playing rather than use irrational meters. Judging by the question, I'm not alone.

    – Tim
    8 mins ago








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There are whole, half, quarter etc. notes, but nothing that shows third. So, to me, the 4/3 time signature is somewhat pointless, as to show 'proper' notes, they need to have the 'triplet' sign. I reckon it could be written out in standard form and make more sense.

– Tim
3 hours ago





There are whole, half, quarter etc. notes, but nothing that shows third. So, to me, the 4/3 time signature is somewhat pointless, as to show 'proper' notes, they need to have the 'triplet' sign. I reckon it could be written out in standard form and make more sense.

– Tim
3 hours ago













hi Tim thanks but why they need to have the triplets signs?

– LoveIsHere
3 hours ago





hi Tim thanks but why they need to have the triplets signs?

– LoveIsHere
3 hours ago




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Because there is no notehead shape that alone depicts 1/3 note. there's 1/2, 1/4,1/8, but no 1/3. Same reason as triplets themselves.

– Tim
2 hours ago





Because there is no notehead shape that alone depicts 1/3 note. there's 1/2, 1/4,1/8, but no 1/3. Same reason as triplets themselves.

– Tim
2 hours ago













so from your answer, I get that stating the time signature 4/3 is not enough for this? I mean if I saw sheet music like that I would understand from the time signature alone the way I should play it. that is why I am confused.

– LoveIsHere
2 hours ago





so from your answer, I get that stating the time signature 4/3 is not enough for this? I mean if I saw sheet music like that I would understand from the time signature alone the way I should play it. that is why I am confused.

– LoveIsHere
2 hours ago




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I'm fairly certain that there are better ways to show what needs playing rather than use irrational meters. Judging by the question, I'm not alone.

– Tim
8 mins ago





I'm fairly certain that there are better ways to show what needs playing rather than use irrational meters. Judging by the question, I'm not alone.

– Tim
8 mins ago










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The problem is, that tuplet just means some note length modification takes place. Mathematically you require a standard fraction with numerator and denominator and there seem to be different opinions which of those to put into the tuplet bracket.



Wikipedia suggest under Tuplet Notation a full fraction representation in the form 2:3 for exotic cases, but I have never seen one.



So counting the note values and looking at the current time signature may be necessary for resolution.






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    The problem is, that tuplet just means some note length modification takes place. Mathematically you require a standard fraction with numerator and denominator and there seem to be different opinions which of those to put into the tuplet bracket.



    Wikipedia suggest under Tuplet Notation a full fraction representation in the form 2:3 for exotic cases, but I have never seen one.



    So counting the note values and looking at the current time signature may be necessary for resolution.






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      The problem is, that tuplet just means some note length modification takes place. Mathematically you require a standard fraction with numerator and denominator and there seem to be different opinions which of those to put into the tuplet bracket.



      Wikipedia suggest under Tuplet Notation a full fraction representation in the form 2:3 for exotic cases, but I have never seen one.



      So counting the note values and looking at the current time signature may be necessary for resolution.






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        The problem is, that tuplet just means some note length modification takes place. Mathematically you require a standard fraction with numerator and denominator and there seem to be different opinions which of those to put into the tuplet bracket.



        Wikipedia suggest under Tuplet Notation a full fraction representation in the form 2:3 for exotic cases, but I have never seen one.



        So counting the note values and looking at the current time signature may be necessary for resolution.






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        The problem is, that tuplet just means some note length modification takes place. Mathematically you require a standard fraction with numerator and denominator and there seem to be different opinions which of those to put into the tuplet bracket.



        Wikipedia suggest under Tuplet Notation a full fraction representation in the form 2:3 for exotic cases, but I have never seen one.



        So counting the note values and looking at the current time signature may be necessary for resolution.







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