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Pendulum Rotation
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A simple pendulum has a bob with a mass of .50 kg. The cord has a length of 1.5 m, and the bob is displaced $20^circ$.
I am trying to use this expression to find the maximum velocity of the bob.
$$omega^2_f=2 alphatriangletheta$$
I get the following expression:
$$frac{v^2}{L^2}=2Lfrac{mgsintheta}{I}triangletheta$$
Is this expression correct to solve the question?
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A simple pendulum has a bob with a mass of .50 kg. The cord has a length of 1.5 m, and the bob is displaced $20^circ$.
I am trying to use this expression to find the maximum velocity of the bob.
$$omega^2_f=2 alphatriangletheta$$
I get the following expression:
$$frac{v^2}{L^2}=2Lfrac{mgsintheta}{I}triangletheta$$
Is this expression correct to solve the question?
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asked 1 hour ago
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A simple pendulum has a bob with a mass of .50 kg. The cord has a length of 1.5 m, and the bob is displaced $20^circ$.
I am trying to use this expression to find the maximum velocity of the bob.
$$omega^2_f=2 alphatriangletheta$$
I get the following expression:
$$frac{v^2}{L^2}=2Lfrac{mgsintheta}{I}triangletheta$$
Is this expression correct to solve the question?
mathematical-physics
asked 1 hour ago
EnlightenedFunkyEnlightenedFunky
81211022
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A simple pendulum has a bob with a mass of .50 kg. The cord has a length of 1.5 m, and the bob is displaced $20^circ$.
I am trying to use this expression to find the maximum velocity of the bob.
$$omega^2_f=2 alphatriangletheta$$
I get the following expression:
$$frac{v^2}{L^2}=2Lfrac{mgsintheta}{I}triangletheta$$
Is this expression correct to solve the question?
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First of all, you should explain what your parameters are. But you seem to over complicate the problem. Write conservation of energy. At the bottom of the trajectory, we choose the potential energy to be $0$. Then you have only kinetic energy $frac 12 mv^2$. At the top of the trajectory, the bob is at rest, so kinetic energy is zero, and you have only potential energy. The height of the bob is $L(1-costheta)$, so $$mgL(1-costheta)=frac 12 mv^2$$
Notice that the velocity is independent of mass
answered 1 hour ago
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But, I would like to solve this particular manner the professor solved it that way already.
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– EnlightenedFunky
1 hour ago
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Secondly, everything was given to you.in the detail.
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1 hour ago
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You did not explain what the $alpha$ or $I$ or $omega_f$ are. I guessed that you they represent angular acceleration, moment of inertia, and angular velocity. However, the formula that you wrote cannot be used in this case. That formula is valid for constant $alpha$, which is not the case here. The torque depends on the angle between gravity and the cord.
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1 hour ago
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Isn't the force is $mgsintheta$
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– EnlightenedFunky
1 hour ago
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No, the force is $mg$ always pointing downwards. The torque is $mgLsintheta$
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The equation only holds when angular acceleration $alpha$ is a constant. However in this case $alpha=frac{gsintheta}{l}$, which depends on $theta$
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First of all, you should explain what your parameters are. But you seem to over complicate the problem. Write conservation of energy. At the bottom of the trajectory, we choose the potential energy to be $0$. Then you have only kinetic energy $frac 12 mv^2$. At the top of the trajectory, the bob is at rest, so kinetic energy is zero, and you have only potential energy. The height of the bob is $L(1-costheta)$, so $$mgL(1-costheta)=frac 12 mv^2$$
Notice that the velocity is independent of mass
answered 1 hour ago
AndreiAndrei
12.5k21128
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But, I would like to solve this particular manner the professor solved it that way already.
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– EnlightenedFunky
1 hour ago
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Secondly, everything was given to you.in the detail.
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– EnlightenedFunky
1 hour ago
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You did not explain what the $alpha$ or $I$ or $omega_f$ are. I guessed that you they represent angular acceleration, moment of inertia, and angular velocity. However, the formula that you wrote cannot be used in this case. That formula is valid for constant $alpha$, which is not the case here. The torque depends on the angle between gravity and the cord.
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– Andrei
1 hour ago
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Isn't the force is $mgsintheta$
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– EnlightenedFunky
1 hour ago
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No, the force is $mg$ always pointing downwards. The torque is $mgLsintheta$
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– Andrei
58 mins ago
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show 1 more comment
$begingroup$
First of all, you should explain what your parameters are. But you seem to over complicate the problem. Write conservation of energy. At the bottom of the trajectory, we choose the potential energy to be $0$. Then you have only kinetic energy $frac 12 mv^2$. At the top of the trajectory, the bob is at rest, so kinetic energy is zero, and you have only potential energy. The height of the bob is $L(1-costheta)$, so $$mgL(1-costheta)=frac 12 mv^2$$
Notice that the velocity is independent of mass
answered 1 hour ago
AndreiAndrei
12.5k21128
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But, I would like to solve this particular manner the professor solved it that way already.
$endgroup$
– EnlightenedFunky
1 hour ago
$begingroup$
Secondly, everything was given to you.in the detail.
$endgroup$
– EnlightenedFunky
1 hour ago
$begingroup$
You did not explain what the $alpha$ or $I$ or $omega_f$ are. I guessed that you they represent angular acceleration, moment of inertia, and angular velocity. However, the formula that you wrote cannot be used in this case. That formula is valid for constant $alpha$, which is not the case here. The torque depends on the angle between gravity and the cord.
$endgroup$
– Andrei
1 hour ago
$begingroup$
Isn't the force is $mgsintheta$
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– EnlightenedFunky
1 hour ago
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No, the force is $mg$ always pointing downwards. The torque is $mgLsintheta$
$endgroup$
– Andrei
58 mins ago
|
show 1 more comment
$begingroup$
First of all, you should explain what your parameters are. But you seem to over complicate the problem. Write conservation of energy. At the bottom of the trajectory, we choose the potential energy to be $0$. Then you have only kinetic energy $frac 12 mv^2$. At the top of the trajectory, the bob is at rest, so kinetic energy is zero, and you have only potential energy. The height of the bob is $L(1-costheta)$, so $$mgL(1-costheta)=frac 12 mv^2$$
Notice that the velocity is independent of mass
answered 1 hour ago
AndreiAndrei
12.5k21128
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First of all, you should explain what your parameters are. But you seem to over complicate the problem. Write conservation of energy. At the bottom of the trajectory, we choose the potential energy to be $0$. Then you have only kinetic energy $frac 12 mv^2$. At the top of the trajectory, the bob is at rest, so kinetic energy is zero, and you have only potential energy. The height of the bob is $L(1-costheta)$, so $$mgL(1-costheta)=frac 12 mv^2$$
Notice that the velocity is independent of mass
answered 1 hour ago
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answered 1 hour ago
AndreiAndrei
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AndreiAndrei
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AndreiAndrei
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But, I would like to solve this particular manner the professor solved it that way already.
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– EnlightenedFunky
1 hour ago
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Secondly, everything was given to you.in the detail.
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– EnlightenedFunky
1 hour ago
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You did not explain what the $alpha$ or $I$ or $omega_f$ are. I guessed that you they represent angular acceleration, moment of inertia, and angular velocity. However, the formula that you wrote cannot be used in this case. That formula is valid for constant $alpha$, which is not the case here. The torque depends on the angle between gravity and the cord.
$endgroup$
– Andrei
1 hour ago
$begingroup$
Isn't the force is $mgsintheta$
$endgroup$
– EnlightenedFunky
1 hour ago
$begingroup$
No, the force is $mg$ always pointing downwards. The torque is $mgLsintheta$
$endgroup$
– Andrei
58 mins ago
|
show 1 more comment
$begingroup$
But, I would like to solve this particular manner the professor solved it that way already.
$endgroup$
– EnlightenedFunky
1 hour ago
$begingroup$
Secondly, everything was given to you.in the detail.
$endgroup$
– EnlightenedFunky
1 hour ago
$begingroup$
You did not explain what the $alpha$ or $I$ or $omega_f$ are. I guessed that you they represent angular acceleration, moment of inertia, and angular velocity. However, the formula that you wrote cannot be used in this case. That formula is valid for constant $alpha$, which is not the case here. The torque depends on the angle between gravity and the cord.
$endgroup$
– Andrei
1 hour ago
$begingroup$
Isn't the force is $mgsintheta$
$endgroup$
– EnlightenedFunky
1 hour ago
$begingroup$
No, the force is $mg$ always pointing downwards. The torque is $mgLsintheta$
$endgroup$
– Andrei
58 mins ago
$begingroup$
But, I would like to solve this particular manner the professor solved it that way already.
$endgroup$
– EnlightenedFunky
1 hour ago
$begingroup$
But, I would like to solve this particular manner the professor solved it that way already.
$endgroup$
– EnlightenedFunky
1 hour ago
$begingroup$
Secondly, everything was given to you.in the detail.
$endgroup$
– EnlightenedFunky
1 hour ago
$begingroup$
Secondly, everything was given to you.in the detail.
$endgroup$
– EnlightenedFunky
1 hour ago
$begingroup$
You did not explain what the $alpha$ or $I$ or $omega_f$ are. I guessed that you they represent angular acceleration, moment of inertia, and angular velocity. However, the formula that you wrote cannot be used in this case. That formula is valid for constant $alpha$, which is not the case here. The torque depends on the angle between gravity and the cord.
$endgroup$
– Andrei
1 hour ago
$begingroup$
You did not explain what the $alpha$ or $I$ or $omega_f$ are. I guessed that you they represent angular acceleration, moment of inertia, and angular velocity. However, the formula that you wrote cannot be used in this case. That formula is valid for constant $alpha$, which is not the case here. The torque depends on the angle between gravity and the cord.
$endgroup$
– Andrei
1 hour ago
$begingroup$
Isn't the force is $mgsintheta$
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– EnlightenedFunky
1 hour ago
$begingroup$
Isn't the force is $mgsintheta$
$endgroup$
– EnlightenedFunky
1 hour ago
$begingroup$
No, the force is $mg$ always pointing downwards. The torque is $mgLsintheta$
$endgroup$
– Andrei
58 mins ago
$begingroup$
No, the force is $mg$ always pointing downwards. The torque is $mgLsintheta$
$endgroup$
– Andrei
58 mins ago
|
show 1 more comment
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The equation only holds when angular acceleration $alpha$ is a constant. However in this case $alpha=frac{gsintheta}{l}$, which depends on $theta$
answered 1 hour ago
Yuzheng LinYuzheng Lin
411
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The equation only holds when angular acceleration $alpha$ is a constant. However in this case $alpha=frac{gsintheta}{l}$, which depends on $theta$
answered 1 hour ago
Yuzheng LinYuzheng Lin
411
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The equation only holds when angular acceleration $alpha$ is a constant. However in this case $alpha=frac{gsintheta}{l}$, which depends on $theta$
answered 1 hour ago
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The equation only holds when angular acceleration $alpha$ is a constant. However in this case $alpha=frac{gsintheta}{l}$, which depends on $theta$
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answered 1 hour ago
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answered 1 hour ago
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