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Words and Words with “ver-” Prefix
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If a word and the same word with a "ver-" prefix mean "essentially" the same thing, are there any general differences between them? If so, what are they?
Examples:
Folgen / Verfolgen
Prügeln / Verprügeln
(Others that I can't remember... haha)
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If a word and the same word with a "ver-" prefix mean "essentially" the same thing, are there any general differences between them? If so, what are they?
Examples:
Folgen / Verfolgen
Prügeln / Verprügeln
(Others that I can't remember... haha)
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dingen - verdingen (jemanden dingen is a bit old-fashioned, though)
– Christian Geiselmann
2 days ago
4
I do actually think there are differences in meaning between "folgen" and "verfolgen", or "prügeln" and "verprügeln", i.e. they don't essentially mean the same thing. E.g. "Folgen" = "follow", while "verfolgen" = "prosecute, trail, chase, pursue".
– Rudy Velthuis
2 days ago
kommen - verkommen. In einem gewissen Sinne schon :-).
– user0
2 days ago
2
"Kaufen" and "Verkaufen" are certainly not essentially the same thing...
– BruceWayne
2 days ago
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If a word and the same word with a "ver-" prefix mean "essentially" the same thing, are there any general differences between them? If so, what are they?
Examples:
Folgen / Verfolgen
Prügeln / Verprügeln
(Others that I can't remember... haha)
standard-german
asked 2 days ago
AaronAaron
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If a word and the same word with a "ver-" prefix mean "essentially" the same thing, are there any general differences between them? If so, what are they?
Examples:
Folgen / Verfolgen
Prügeln / Verprügeln
(Others that I can't remember... haha)
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AaronAaron
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AaronAaron
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asked 2 days ago
AaronAaron
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AaronAaron
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dingen - verdingen (jemanden dingen is a bit old-fashioned, though)
– Christian Geiselmann
2 days ago
4
I do actually think there are differences in meaning between "folgen" and "verfolgen", or "prügeln" and "verprügeln", i.e. they don't essentially mean the same thing. E.g. "Folgen" = "follow", while "verfolgen" = "prosecute, trail, chase, pursue".
– Rudy Velthuis
2 days ago
kommen - verkommen. In einem gewissen Sinne schon :-).
– user0
2 days ago
2
"Kaufen" and "Verkaufen" are certainly not essentially the same thing...
– BruceWayne
2 days ago
add a comment |
dingen - verdingen (jemanden dingen is a bit old-fashioned, though)
– Christian Geiselmann
2 days ago
4
I do actually think there are differences in meaning between "folgen" and "verfolgen", or "prügeln" and "verprügeln", i.e. they don't essentially mean the same thing. E.g. "Folgen" = "follow", while "verfolgen" = "prosecute, trail, chase, pursue".
– Rudy Velthuis
2 days ago
kommen - verkommen. In einem gewissen Sinne schon :-).
– user0
2 days ago
2
"Kaufen" and "Verkaufen" are certainly not essentially the same thing...
– BruceWayne
2 days ago
dingen - verdingen (jemanden dingen is a bit old-fashioned, though)
– Christian Geiselmann
2 days ago
dingen - verdingen (jemanden dingen is a bit old-fashioned, though)
– Christian Geiselmann
2 days ago
4
4
I do actually think there are differences in meaning between "folgen" and "verfolgen", or "prügeln" and "verprügeln", i.e. they don't essentially mean the same thing. E.g. "Folgen" = "follow", while "verfolgen" = "prosecute, trail, chase, pursue".
– Rudy Velthuis
2 days ago
I do actually think there are differences in meaning between "folgen" and "verfolgen", or "prügeln" and "verprügeln", i.e. they don't essentially mean the same thing. E.g. "Folgen" = "follow", while "verfolgen" = "prosecute, trail, chase, pursue".
– Rudy Velthuis
2 days ago
kommen - verkommen. In einem gewissen Sinne schon :-).
– user0
2 days ago
kommen - verkommen. In einem gewissen Sinne schon :-).
– user0
2 days ago
2
2
"Kaufen" and "Verkaufen" are certainly not essentially the same thing...
– BruceWayne
2 days ago
"Kaufen" and "Verkaufen" are certainly not essentially the same thing...
– BruceWayne
2 days ago
add a comment |
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The function of the affix ver- are manifold in German. This is summarized in a rather concise list in the DWDS entry on its etymology (Pfeifer) (translation by me, examples from Pfeifer):
The prefix ver- is used to express that something/somebody is
- being removed, carried away: verrücken, vertreiben, verzerren
- vanishing, decays: verdunsten, verklingen, verschwinden
- misleading, going wrong: verführen, verwechseln, sich verzählen
- being negated: verbieten, versagen
- resulting in something: verbluten, verpacken, vertilgen
- is being intensified: verschließen, versperren
- made transitive from intransitive: verfolgen, verheiraten, verspotten
- a verbal derivation from an adjective: verdeutlichen, vergöttern, verarmen, verholzen
I believe the list may be incomplete but it should give you an idea. From your two examples verfolgen is resulting from folgen, verprügeln is an intensification from prügeln.
Over the time the original meaning of one or the other verb affixed with ver- may also get lost or changes, so it is always a good idea to look up a given verb in a dictionary.
Another recommended resource where you can look up if the prefix ver- exists for a given verb or noun is the "Wordformation" browser from canoo.net, in the link here shown for prügeln. You can not only see what prefixes or compounds exist but you can also click on any entry for more information including links to dictionaries.
answered 2 days ago
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"verheiraten" is an odd example. Isn’t "heiraten" already transitive?
– idmean
2 days ago
@idmean You can say "Wir heiraten" or "ich heirate dich", but the subject of "verheiraten" would be neither bride nor broom (perhaps a parent or a priest)
– Hagen von Eitzen
yesterday
add a comment |
Online-Duden gives the following list
Expresses in conjuction with verbs that something is depleted, eliminated or no longer exists as a result of the action.
Examples: verforschen, verfrühstücken, verwarten
Expresses in conjuction with verbs that someone spends time on doing something.
Examples: verschlafen, verschnarchen, verspielen
Expresses in conjuction with verbs that someone is doing something wrongly or incorrectly
Examples: verbremsen, verinszenieren
Expresses in conjuction with verbs that something is being impaired by an action
Examples: verwaschen, verwohnen
Has no impact at all on the meaning in conjuction with verbs
Examples: verbleiben, verbringen, vermelden
Thus, in many cases it is (5), but there are cases where the prefix actually changes the meaning of the base verb.
Fun fact: "ver-" is the most common prefix for German verbs - nearly 50% of the non-separable prefixed verbs start with it.
answered 2 days ago
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43.2k145131
Errrm - the first 3 entries appear to be missing. Apart from that, and to be honest, I do not believe in this Duden list. I mean, why do they come up with verforschen, verinszenieren, verfeaturen? These are not really common verbs, at least not in my microenvironment. Also, I must disagree that verbleiben, verbringen, vermelden are identical to bleiben, bringen, melden. A word of critisism may be worth to be included in your answer (still +1 from me because this list is way out of your responsibility).
– Takkat♦
2 days ago
@Takkat The first 3 entries in the Duden do not refer to verbs, so do not apply to this question. With regards to the selected examples - maybe not the most common examples, but work for me.
– tofro
2 days ago
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The function of the affix ver- are manifold in German. This is summarized in a rather concise list in the DWDS entry on its etymology (Pfeifer) (translation by me, examples from Pfeifer):
The prefix ver- is used to express that something/somebody is
- being removed, carried away: verrücken, vertreiben, verzerren
- vanishing, decays: verdunsten, verklingen, verschwinden
- misleading, going wrong: verführen, verwechseln, sich verzählen
- being negated: verbieten, versagen
- resulting in something: verbluten, verpacken, vertilgen
- is being intensified: verschließen, versperren
- made transitive from intransitive: verfolgen, verheiraten, verspotten
- a verbal derivation from an adjective: verdeutlichen, vergöttern, verarmen, verholzen
I believe the list may be incomplete but it should give you an idea. From your two examples verfolgen is resulting from folgen, verprügeln is an intensification from prügeln.
Over the time the original meaning of one or the other verb affixed with ver- may also get lost or changes, so it is always a good idea to look up a given verb in a dictionary.
Another recommended resource where you can look up if the prefix ver- exists for a given verb or noun is the "Wordformation" browser from canoo.net, in the link here shown for prügeln. You can not only see what prefixes or compounds exist but you can also click on any entry for more information including links to dictionaries.
answered 2 days ago
Takkat♦Takkat
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"verheiraten" is an odd example. Isn’t "heiraten" already transitive?
– idmean
2 days ago
@idmean You can say "Wir heiraten" or "ich heirate dich", but the subject of "verheiraten" would be neither bride nor broom (perhaps a parent or a priest)
– Hagen von Eitzen
yesterday
add a comment |
The function of the affix ver- are manifold in German. This is summarized in a rather concise list in the DWDS entry on its etymology (Pfeifer) (translation by me, examples from Pfeifer):
The prefix ver- is used to express that something/somebody is
- being removed, carried away: verrücken, vertreiben, verzerren
- vanishing, decays: verdunsten, verklingen, verschwinden
- misleading, going wrong: verführen, verwechseln, sich verzählen
- being negated: verbieten, versagen
- resulting in something: verbluten, verpacken, vertilgen
- is being intensified: verschließen, versperren
- made transitive from intransitive: verfolgen, verheiraten, verspotten
- a verbal derivation from an adjective: verdeutlichen, vergöttern, verarmen, verholzen
I believe the list may be incomplete but it should give you an idea. From your two examples verfolgen is resulting from folgen, verprügeln is an intensification from prügeln.
Over the time the original meaning of one or the other verb affixed with ver- may also get lost or changes, so it is always a good idea to look up a given verb in a dictionary.
Another recommended resource where you can look up if the prefix ver- exists for a given verb or noun is the "Wordformation" browser from canoo.net, in the link here shown for prügeln. You can not only see what prefixes or compounds exist but you can also click on any entry for more information including links to dictionaries.
answered 2 days ago
Takkat♦Takkat
58.2k17124359
"verheiraten" is an odd example. Isn’t "heiraten" already transitive?
– idmean
2 days ago
@idmean You can say "Wir heiraten" or "ich heirate dich", but the subject of "verheiraten" would be neither bride nor broom (perhaps a parent or a priest)
– Hagen von Eitzen
yesterday
add a comment |
The function of the affix ver- are manifold in German. This is summarized in a rather concise list in the DWDS entry on its etymology (Pfeifer) (translation by me, examples from Pfeifer):
The prefix ver- is used to express that something/somebody is
- being removed, carried away: verrücken, vertreiben, verzerren
- vanishing, decays: verdunsten, verklingen, verschwinden
- misleading, going wrong: verführen, verwechseln, sich verzählen
- being negated: verbieten, versagen
- resulting in something: verbluten, verpacken, vertilgen
- is being intensified: verschließen, versperren
- made transitive from intransitive: verfolgen, verheiraten, verspotten
- a verbal derivation from an adjective: verdeutlichen, vergöttern, verarmen, verholzen
I believe the list may be incomplete but it should give you an idea. From your two examples verfolgen is resulting from folgen, verprügeln is an intensification from prügeln.
Over the time the original meaning of one or the other verb affixed with ver- may also get lost or changes, so it is always a good idea to look up a given verb in a dictionary.
Another recommended resource where you can look up if the prefix ver- exists for a given verb or noun is the "Wordformation" browser from canoo.net, in the link here shown for prügeln. You can not only see what prefixes or compounds exist but you can also click on any entry for more information including links to dictionaries.
answered 2 days ago
Takkat♦Takkat
58.2k17124359
The function of the affix ver- are manifold in German. This is summarized in a rather concise list in the DWDS entry on its etymology (Pfeifer) (translation by me, examples from Pfeifer):
The prefix ver- is used to express that something/somebody is
- being removed, carried away: verrücken, vertreiben, verzerren
- vanishing, decays: verdunsten, verklingen, verschwinden
- misleading, going wrong: verführen, verwechseln, sich verzählen
- being negated: verbieten, versagen
- resulting in something: verbluten, verpacken, vertilgen
- is being intensified: verschließen, versperren
- made transitive from intransitive: verfolgen, verheiraten, verspotten
- a verbal derivation from an adjective: verdeutlichen, vergöttern, verarmen, verholzen
I believe the list may be incomplete but it should give you an idea. From your two examples verfolgen is resulting from folgen, verprügeln is an intensification from prügeln.
Over the time the original meaning of one or the other verb affixed with ver- may also get lost or changes, so it is always a good idea to look up a given verb in a dictionary.
Another recommended resource where you can look up if the prefix ver- exists for a given verb or noun is the "Wordformation" browser from canoo.net, in the link here shown for prügeln. You can not only see what prefixes or compounds exist but you can also click on any entry for more information including links to dictionaries.
answered 2 days ago
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edited 2 days ago
answered 2 days ago
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"verheiraten" is an odd example. Isn’t "heiraten" already transitive?
– idmean
2 days ago
@idmean You can say "Wir heiraten" or "ich heirate dich", but the subject of "verheiraten" would be neither bride nor broom (perhaps a parent or a priest)
– Hagen von Eitzen
yesterday
add a comment |
"verheiraten" is an odd example. Isn’t "heiraten" already transitive?
– idmean
2 days ago
@idmean You can say "Wir heiraten" or "ich heirate dich", but the subject of "verheiraten" would be neither bride nor broom (perhaps a parent or a priest)
– Hagen von Eitzen
yesterday
"verheiraten" is an odd example. Isn’t "heiraten" already transitive?
– idmean
2 days ago
"verheiraten" is an odd example. Isn’t "heiraten" already transitive?
– idmean
2 days ago
@idmean You can say "Wir heiraten" or "ich heirate dich", but the subject of "verheiraten" would be neither bride nor broom (perhaps a parent or a priest)
– Hagen von Eitzen
yesterday
@idmean You can say "Wir heiraten" or "ich heirate dich", but the subject of "verheiraten" would be neither bride nor broom (perhaps a parent or a priest)
– Hagen von Eitzen
yesterday
add a comment |
Online-Duden gives the following list
Expresses in conjuction with verbs that something is depleted, eliminated or no longer exists as a result of the action.
Examples: verforschen, verfrühstücken, verwarten
Expresses in conjuction with verbs that someone spends time on doing something.
Examples: verschlafen, verschnarchen, verspielen
Expresses in conjuction with verbs that someone is doing something wrongly or incorrectly
Examples: verbremsen, verinszenieren
Expresses in conjuction with verbs that something is being impaired by an action
Examples: verwaschen, verwohnen
Has no impact at all on the meaning in conjuction with verbs
Examples: verbleiben, verbringen, vermelden
Thus, in many cases it is (5), but there are cases where the prefix actually changes the meaning of the base verb.
Fun fact: "ver-" is the most common prefix for German verbs - nearly 50% of the non-separable prefixed verbs start with it.
answered 2 days ago
tofrotofro
43.2k145131
Errrm - the first 3 entries appear to be missing. Apart from that, and to be honest, I do not believe in this Duden list. I mean, why do they come up with verforschen, verinszenieren, verfeaturen? These are not really common verbs, at least not in my microenvironment. Also, I must disagree that verbleiben, verbringen, vermelden are identical to bleiben, bringen, melden. A word of critisism may be worth to be included in your answer (still +1 from me because this list is way out of your responsibility).
– Takkat♦
2 days ago
@Takkat The first 3 entries in the Duden do not refer to verbs, so do not apply to this question. With regards to the selected examples - maybe not the most common examples, but work for me.
– tofro
2 days ago
add a comment |
Online-Duden gives the following list
Expresses in conjuction with verbs that something is depleted, eliminated or no longer exists as a result of the action.
Examples: verforschen, verfrühstücken, verwarten
Expresses in conjuction with verbs that someone spends time on doing something.
Examples: verschlafen, verschnarchen, verspielen
Expresses in conjuction with verbs that someone is doing something wrongly or incorrectly
Examples: verbremsen, verinszenieren
Expresses in conjuction with verbs that something is being impaired by an action
Examples: verwaschen, verwohnen
Has no impact at all on the meaning in conjuction with verbs
Examples: verbleiben, verbringen, vermelden
Thus, in many cases it is (5), but there are cases where the prefix actually changes the meaning of the base verb.
Fun fact: "ver-" is the most common prefix for German verbs - nearly 50% of the non-separable prefixed verbs start with it.
answered 2 days ago
tofrotofro
43.2k145131
Errrm - the first 3 entries appear to be missing. Apart from that, and to be honest, I do not believe in this Duden list. I mean, why do they come up with verforschen, verinszenieren, verfeaturen? These are not really common verbs, at least not in my microenvironment. Also, I must disagree that verbleiben, verbringen, vermelden are identical to bleiben, bringen, melden. A word of critisism may be worth to be included in your answer (still +1 from me because this list is way out of your responsibility).
– Takkat♦
2 days ago
@Takkat The first 3 entries in the Duden do not refer to verbs, so do not apply to this question. With regards to the selected examples - maybe not the most common examples, but work for me.
– tofro
2 days ago
add a comment |
Online-Duden gives the following list
Expresses in conjuction with verbs that something is depleted, eliminated or no longer exists as a result of the action.
Examples: verforschen, verfrühstücken, verwarten
Expresses in conjuction with verbs that someone spends time on doing something.
Examples: verschlafen, verschnarchen, verspielen
Expresses in conjuction with verbs that someone is doing something wrongly or incorrectly
Examples: verbremsen, verinszenieren
Expresses in conjuction with verbs that something is being impaired by an action
Examples: verwaschen, verwohnen
Has no impact at all on the meaning in conjuction with verbs
Examples: verbleiben, verbringen, vermelden
Thus, in many cases it is (5), but there are cases where the prefix actually changes the meaning of the base verb.
Fun fact: "ver-" is the most common prefix for German verbs - nearly 50% of the non-separable prefixed verbs start with it.
answered 2 days ago
tofrotofro
43.2k145131
Online-Duden gives the following list
Expresses in conjuction with verbs that something is depleted, eliminated or no longer exists as a result of the action.
Examples: verforschen, verfrühstücken, verwarten
Expresses in conjuction with verbs that someone spends time on doing something.
Examples: verschlafen, verschnarchen, verspielen
Expresses in conjuction with verbs that someone is doing something wrongly or incorrectly
Examples: verbremsen, verinszenieren
Expresses in conjuction with verbs that something is being impaired by an action
Examples: verwaschen, verwohnen
Has no impact at all on the meaning in conjuction with verbs
Examples: verbleiben, verbringen, vermelden
Thus, in many cases it is (5), but there are cases where the prefix actually changes the meaning of the base verb.
Fun fact: "ver-" is the most common prefix for German verbs - nearly 50% of the non-separable prefixed verbs start with it.
answered 2 days ago
tofrotofro
43.2k145131
edited 2 days ago
answered 2 days ago
tofrotofro
43.2k145131
answered 2 days ago
tofrotofro
43.2k145131
answered 2 days ago
tofrotofro
43.2k145131
43.2k145131
Errrm - the first 3 entries appear to be missing. Apart from that, and to be honest, I do not believe in this Duden list. I mean, why do they come up with verforschen, verinszenieren, verfeaturen? These are not really common verbs, at least not in my microenvironment. Also, I must disagree that verbleiben, verbringen, vermelden are identical to bleiben, bringen, melden. A word of critisism may be worth to be included in your answer (still +1 from me because this list is way out of your responsibility).
– Takkat♦
2 days ago
@Takkat The first 3 entries in the Duden do not refer to verbs, so do not apply to this question. With regards to the selected examples - maybe not the most common examples, but work for me.
– tofro
2 days ago
add a comment |
Errrm - the first 3 entries appear to be missing. Apart from that, and to be honest, I do not believe in this Duden list. I mean, why do they come up with verforschen, verinszenieren, verfeaturen? These are not really common verbs, at least not in my microenvironment. Also, I must disagree that verbleiben, verbringen, vermelden are identical to bleiben, bringen, melden. A word of critisism may be worth to be included in your answer (still +1 from me because this list is way out of your responsibility).
– Takkat♦
2 days ago
@Takkat The first 3 entries in the Duden do not refer to verbs, so do not apply to this question. With regards to the selected examples - maybe not the most common examples, but work for me.
– tofro
2 days ago
Errrm - the first 3 entries appear to be missing. Apart from that, and to be honest, I do not believe in this Duden list. I mean, why do they come up with verforschen, verinszenieren, verfeaturen? These are not really common verbs, at least not in my microenvironment. Also, I must disagree that verbleiben, verbringen, vermelden are identical to bleiben, bringen, melden. A word of critisism may be worth to be included in your answer (still +1 from me because this list is way out of your responsibility).
– Takkat♦
2 days ago
Errrm - the first 3 entries appear to be missing. Apart from that, and to be honest, I do not believe in this Duden list. I mean, why do they come up with verforschen, verinszenieren, verfeaturen? These are not really common verbs, at least not in my microenvironment. Also, I must disagree that verbleiben, verbringen, vermelden are identical to bleiben, bringen, melden. A word of critisism may be worth to be included in your answer (still +1 from me because this list is way out of your responsibility).
– Takkat♦
2 days ago
@Takkat The first 3 entries in the Duden do not refer to verbs, so do not apply to this question. With regards to the selected examples - maybe not the most common examples, but work for me.
– tofro
2 days ago
@Takkat The first 3 entries in the Duden do not refer to verbs, so do not apply to this question. With regards to the selected examples - maybe not the most common examples, but work for me.
– tofro
2 days ago
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dingen - verdingen (jemanden dingen is a bit old-fashioned, though)
– Christian Geiselmann
2 days ago
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I do actually think there are differences in meaning between "folgen" and "verfolgen", or "prügeln" and "verprügeln", i.e. they don't essentially mean the same thing. E.g. "Folgen" = "follow", while "verfolgen" = "prosecute, trail, chase, pursue".
– Rudy Velthuis
2 days ago
kommen - verkommen. In einem gewissen Sinne schon :-).
– user0
2 days ago
2
"Kaufen" and "Verkaufen" are certainly not essentially the same thing...
– BruceWayne
2 days ago