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Why do we say “a one-legged man”, with a final -ed, but also say “a one-person job” without?Why is it that a noun can be added with -ed?Why is it “Deadpool”, not “Dead Pool”?Compounding of — teakettleIs there any pattern or logic in word formation?

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Why doesn't

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A three-headED dog

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  @ColleenV: Your second link is not really germane to this question, and the first is somewhat suspect as well. What's at issue here is not the verbing of nouns but why we use a past participle of a verb as a noun in combination with other modifiers without actually verbing a noun. Where do "long-bearded man" and "whiskey-voiced singer" fit in? My comment, which you appear to have deleted, was a more frank and realistic assessment of the situation.
  
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Why doesn't

A three room house

have the "ed" ending while

A three-headED dog

has?

word-formation

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asked 3 hours ago

Michael AzarenkoMichael Azarenko

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  Related Why do we say “a one-legged man”, with a final -ed, but also say “a one-person job” without? Why is it that a noun can be added with -ed?
  
  – ColleenV♦
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  Sometimes, it can be either; there are four-engine jets in some newspapers and four-engined jets on others.
  
  – choster
  2 hours ago
  

  
  
  
  


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  @ColleenV: Your second link is not really germane to this question, and the first is somewhat suspect as well. What's at issue here is not the verbing of nouns but why we use a past participle of a verb as a noun in combination with other modifiers without actually verbing a noun. Where do "long-bearded man" and "whiskey-voiced singer" fit in? My comment, which you appear to have deleted, was a more frank and realistic assessment of the situation.
  
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  @Robusto I linked the questions as “related” because I thought it was likely that learners who found this question in a search might also be interested in those questions. If I had thought they were more than just “related”, I would have indicated that.
  
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  1 hour ago
  

  
  
  
  

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Why doesn't

A three room house

have the "ed" ending while

A three-headED dog

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Often, a phrase like: a house with three rooms, can be made to function like an adjective by writing:

• a three-room house [many sites with leave out the hyphen, but in formal writing, it should be there]

Here is a full explanation of this, which is called a noun adjunct, attributive noun or noun pre-modifier: noun adjunct. This can get complicated but the Wikipedia entry is rather thorough.

The second point in the question concerns parts of the body used as adjectives in English. This point is more straightforward. It so happens that traditionally English adds ed to body parts to form adjectives with numbers:

• a two-headed monster [with two heads]


• a three-legged dog [a dog that has lost a leg]


• a one-eyed man [in literature, often a pirate with a black patch over one eye. :)]


• a three-toed sloth [a very cute animal, by the way]


• a six-toed cat [polydactyl, can also have seven, by the way].


• a one-armed man [a man with one arm]


• a fleet-footed animal [a deer, it can run fast, for example]


• Three-eared Rabbit [a restaurant in Trussville, Alabama]


• a dog-eared book [worn or in bad condition at the corners]


• a knock-kneed child [the legs curve inward]


• a scatter-brained person [one who gets confused easily]


• harebrained or hare-brained [similar to scatter brain]

So, generally, heads, eyes, arms, legs, feet, toes and fingers, and the brain (less often ears and knees) can have ed added to them to form adjectives. There is also lily-livered meaning cowardly. livered comes from liver. And various items with brain.

[I am sure I probably missed some. But that's the general idea.]

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  You mean if we have some of that list's verbs verbs we alwas have to add "edd". If we have different words (room, door, car etc) it should be without? But If I will say "a two-head dog". and "a three-roomed house" it will be acceptable or completely wrong?
  
  – Michael Azarenko
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  harebrained or harebrained what's the difference?
  
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  @MichaelAzarenko Are we going to do this again? I explain and then you ask question after question after question as if what I said didn't count? First, it is ed and not edd. Second, it applies to parts of the body. Third, it does not apply to other nouns. That is a separate category called noun adjuncts, which you can go and read about on the link in Wikipedia. No, three-roomed house is wrong. A room is not a body part!
  
  – Lambie
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  @Lambie, please, man, don't answer my questions then if you are so nervous. I've come here for understanding English better not for listening from you how stubborn I am or anything else. If a teacher explains something to a learner and the latter one doesn't understand something for 100%, may I ask you, who is guilty then? For your version, of course, it will be the learner. Good luck
  
  – Michael Azarenko
  1 hour ago
  

  
  
  
  


• 
  
  
  

  
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  
  @MichaelAzarenko Yes, and I patiently explained to you over and over again the issues with your last question in the clearest possible terms. I simply do not like to be misused. I explained the body parts thing. And I explained the other thing (Wikipedia), which is too complex to be fully explained here. There really is nothing more to say about this now. There is such a thing as resistance....Based on my explanation, therefore, your question about a three-roomed house seems very odd.
  
  – Lambie
  1 hour ago
  
  
  

  
  
  
  

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It is perfectly normal to say a three-roomed house, a four-engined plane, a three-wheeled car, a five-sided coin. Many such constructions are also valid without the -ed form. So your question "Why doesn't 'a three room house' have the "ed" ending?' is based on a false premise.

In Britain, houses are commonly classified by the number of bedrooms, and you can see sale announcements using e.g. 'three-bedroomed house' and 'three-bedroom house'.

'Eight Roomed House' (2009) was the debut novel of Fiona Margaret Watson.

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  I have seen people correct posts of “x room house” to be “x-roomed house”, so it may be that the “ed” version is perceived to be more correct.
  
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Often, a phrase like: a house with three rooms, can be made to function like an adjective by writing:

• a three-room house [many sites with leave out the hyphen, but in formal writing, it should be there]

Here is a full explanation of this, which is called a noun adjunct, attributive noun or noun pre-modifier: noun adjunct. This can get complicated but the Wikipedia entry is rather thorough.

The second point in the question concerns parts of the body used as adjectives in English. This point is more straightforward. It so happens that traditionally English adds ed to body parts to form adjectives with numbers:

• a two-headed monster [with two heads]


• a three-legged dog [a dog that has lost a leg]


• a one-eyed man [in literature, often a pirate with a black patch over one eye. :)]


• a three-toed sloth [a very cute animal, by the way]


• a six-toed cat [polydactyl, can also have seven, by the way].


• a one-armed man [a man with one arm]


• a fleet-footed animal [a deer, it can run fast, for example]


• Three-eared Rabbit [a restaurant in Trussville, Alabama]


• a dog-eared book [worn or in bad condition at the corners]


• a knock-kneed child [the legs curve inward]


• a scatter-brained person [one who gets confused easily]


• harebrained or hare-brained [similar to scatter brain]

So, generally, heads, eyes, arms, legs, feet, toes and fingers, and the brain (less often ears and knees) can have ed added to them to form adjectives. There is also lily-livered meaning cowardly. livered comes from liver. And various items with brain.

[I am sure I probably missed some. But that's the general idea.]

share|improve this answer

edited 2 hours ago

answered 3 hours ago

LambieLambie

16k1435

• 
  
  
  

  
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  
  You mean if we have some of that list's verbs verbs we alwas have to add "edd". If we have different words (room, door, car etc) it should be without? But If I will say "a two-head dog". and "a three-roomed house" it will be acceptable or completely wrong?
  
  – Michael Azarenko
  2 hours ago
  

  
  
  
  


• 
  
  
  

  
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  
  harebrained or harebrained what's the difference?
  
  – Kreiri
  2 hours ago
  

  
  
  
  


• 
  
  
  

  
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  
  @MichaelAzarenko Are we going to do this again? I explain and then you ask question after question after question as if what I said didn't count? First, it is ed and not edd. Second, it applies to parts of the body. Third, it does not apply to other nouns. That is a separate category called noun adjuncts, which you can go and read about on the link in Wikipedia. No, three-roomed house is wrong. A room is not a body part!
  
  – Lambie
  2 hours ago
  
  
  

  
  
  
  


• 
  
  
  

  
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  
  @Lambie, please, man, don't answer my questions then if you are so nervous. I've come here for understanding English better not for listening from you how stubborn I am or anything else. If a teacher explains something to a learner and the latter one doesn't understand something for 100%, may I ask you, who is guilty then? For your version, of course, it will be the learner. Good luck
  
  – Michael Azarenko
  1 hour ago
  

  
  
  
  


• 
  
  
  

  
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  
  @MichaelAzarenko Yes, and I patiently explained to you over and over again the issues with your last question in the clearest possible terms. I simply do not like to be misused. I explained the body parts thing. And I explained the other thing (Wikipedia), which is too complex to be fully explained here. There really is nothing more to say about this now. There is such a thing as resistance....Based on my explanation, therefore, your question about a three-roomed house seems very odd.
  
  – Lambie
  1 hour ago
  
  
  

  
  
  
  

add a comment | 

3

Often, a phrase like: a house with three rooms, can be made to function like an adjective by writing:

• a three-room house [many sites with leave out the hyphen, but in formal writing, it should be there]

Here is a full explanation of this, which is called a noun adjunct, attributive noun or noun pre-modifier: noun adjunct. This can get complicated but the Wikipedia entry is rather thorough.

The second point in the question concerns parts of the body used as adjectives in English. This point is more straightforward. It so happens that traditionally English adds ed to body parts to form adjectives with numbers:

• a two-headed monster [with two heads]


• a three-legged dog [a dog that has lost a leg]


• a one-eyed man [in literature, often a pirate with a black patch over one eye. :)]


• a three-toed sloth [a very cute animal, by the way]


• a six-toed cat [polydactyl, can also have seven, by the way].


• a one-armed man [a man with one arm]


• a fleet-footed animal [a deer, it can run fast, for example]


• Three-eared Rabbit [a restaurant in Trussville, Alabama]


• a dog-eared book [worn or in bad condition at the corners]


• a knock-kneed child [the legs curve inward]


• a scatter-brained person [one who gets confused easily]


• harebrained or hare-brained [similar to scatter brain]

So, generally, heads, eyes, arms, legs, feet, toes and fingers, and the brain (less often ears and knees) can have ed added to them to form adjectives. There is also lily-livered meaning cowardly. livered comes from liver. And various items with brain.

[I am sure I probably missed some. But that's the general idea.]

share|improve this answer

edited 2 hours ago

answered 3 hours ago

LambieLambie

16k1435

• 
  
  
  

  
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  
  You mean if we have some of that list's verbs verbs we alwas have to add "edd". If we have different words (room, door, car etc) it should be without? But If I will say "a two-head dog". and "a three-roomed house" it will be acceptable or completely wrong?
  
  – Michael Azarenko
  2 hours ago
  

  
  
  
  


• 
  
  
  

  
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  
  harebrained or harebrained what's the difference?
  
  – Kreiri
  2 hours ago
  

  
  
  
  


• 
  
  
  

  
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  
  @MichaelAzarenko Are we going to do this again? I explain and then you ask question after question after question as if what I said didn't count? First, it is ed and not edd. Second, it applies to parts of the body. Third, it does not apply to other nouns. That is a separate category called noun adjuncts, which you can go and read about on the link in Wikipedia. No, three-roomed house is wrong. A room is not a body part!
  
  – Lambie
  2 hours ago
  
  
  

  
  
  
  


• 
  
  
  

  
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  
  @Lambie, please, man, don't answer my questions then if you are so nervous. I've come here for understanding English better not for listening from you how stubborn I am or anything else. If a teacher explains something to a learner and the latter one doesn't understand something for 100%, may I ask you, who is guilty then? For your version, of course, it will be the learner. Good luck
  
  – Michael Azarenko
  1 hour ago
  

  
  
  
  


• 
  
  
  

  
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  
  @MichaelAzarenko Yes, and I patiently explained to you over and over again the issues with your last question in the clearest possible terms. I simply do not like to be misused. I explained the body parts thing. And I explained the other thing (Wikipedia), which is too complex to be fully explained here. There really is nothing more to say about this now. There is such a thing as resistance....Based on my explanation, therefore, your question about a three-roomed house seems very odd.
  
  – Lambie
  1 hour ago
  
  
  

  
  
  
  

add a comment | 

Often, a phrase like: a house with three rooms, can be made to function like an adjective by writing:

• a three-room house [many sites with leave out the hyphen, but in formal writing, it should be there]

Here is a full explanation of this, which is called a noun adjunct, attributive noun or noun pre-modifier: noun adjunct. This can get complicated but the Wikipedia entry is rather thorough.

The second point in the question concerns parts of the body used as adjectives in English. This point is more straightforward. It so happens that traditionally English adds ed to body parts to form adjectives with numbers:

• a two-headed monster [with two heads]


• a three-legged dog [a dog that has lost a leg]


• a one-eyed man [in literature, often a pirate with a black patch over one eye. :)]


• a three-toed sloth [a very cute animal, by the way]


• a six-toed cat [polydactyl, can also have seven, by the way].


• a one-armed man [a man with one arm]


• a fleet-footed animal [a deer, it can run fast, for example]


• Three-eared Rabbit [a restaurant in Trussville, Alabama]


• a dog-eared book [worn or in bad condition at the corners]


• a knock-kneed child [the legs curve inward]


• a scatter-brained person [one who gets confused easily]


• harebrained or hare-brained [similar to scatter brain]

So, generally, heads, eyes, arms, legs, feet, toes and fingers, and the brain (less often ears and knees) can have ed added to them to form adjectives. There is also lily-livered meaning cowardly. livered comes from liver. And various items with brain.

[I am sure I probably missed some. But that's the general idea.]

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edited 2 hours ago

answered 3 hours ago

LambieLambie

16k1435

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edited 2 hours ago

answered 3 hours ago

LambieLambie

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LambieLambie

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It is perfectly normal to say a three-roomed house, a four-engined plane, a three-wheeled car, a five-sided coin. Many such constructions are also valid without the -ed form. So your question "Why doesn't 'a three room house' have the "ed" ending?' is based on a false premise.

In Britain, houses are commonly classified by the number of bedrooms, and you can see sale announcements using e.g. 'three-bedroomed house' and 'three-bedroom house'.

'Eight Roomed House' (2009) was the debut novel of Fiona Margaret Watson.

share|improve this answer

edited 30 mins ago

answered 54 mins ago

Michael HarveyMichael Harvey

16.4k11835

• 
  
  
  

  
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  
  I have seen people correct posts of “x room house” to be “x-roomed house”, so it may be that the “ed” version is perceived to be more correct.
  
  – ColleenV♦
  47 mins ago
  
  
  

  
  
  
  

add a comment | 

2

It is perfectly normal to say a three-roomed house, a four-engined plane, a three-wheeled car, a five-sided coin. Many such constructions are also valid without the -ed form. So your question "Why doesn't 'a three room house' have the "ed" ending?' is based on a false premise.

In Britain, houses are commonly classified by the number of bedrooms, and you can see sale announcements using e.g. 'three-bedroomed house' and 'three-bedroom house'.

'Eight Roomed House' (2009) was the debut novel of Fiona Margaret Watson.

share|improve this answer

edited 30 mins ago

answered 54 mins ago

Michael HarveyMichael Harvey

16.4k11835

• 
  
  
  

  
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  
  I have seen people correct posts of “x room house” to be “x-roomed house”, so it may be that the “ed” version is perceived to be more correct.
  
  – ColleenV♦
  47 mins ago
  
  
  

  
  
  
  

add a comment | 

It is perfectly normal to say a three-roomed house, a four-engined plane, a three-wheeled car, a five-sided coin. Many such constructions are also valid without the -ed form. So your question "Why doesn't 'a three room house' have the "ed" ending?' is based on a false premise.

In Britain, houses are commonly classified by the number of bedrooms, and you can see sale announcements using e.g. 'three-bedroomed house' and 'three-bedroom house'.

'Eight Roomed House' (2009) was the debut novel of Fiona Margaret Watson.

share|improve this answer

edited 30 mins ago

answered 54 mins ago

Michael HarveyMichael Harvey

16.4k11835

share|improve this answer

edited 30 mins ago

answered 54 mins ago

Michael HarveyMichael Harvey

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answered 54 mins ago

Michael HarveyMichael Harvey

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answered 54 mins ago

Michael HarveyMichael Harvey

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