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Is there a legal poaching?

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I heard the illegal poaching being uttered so many times in a TV show, about animals, that my ear of a non-native speaker, made me questioning the validity of the term.

I have made some Ngram research here and looked up _poaching on Wikipedia, but that results haven't given me a satisfactory answer. As a result, I'm still puzzled.

According to Wikipedia, poaching is defined as:

the illegal hunting or capturing of wild animals.

Hence my question: can there be a legal and an illegal poaching?

Please let me know your thoughts on this.

PS: I am familiar with the word poaching since I first watched the movie Robin Hood, starring Kevin Costner, Elizabeth Mastrantonio, Morgan Freeman, etc., almost two decades ago.

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I heard the illegal poaching being uttered so many times in a TV show, about animals, that my ear of a non-native speaker, made me questioning the validity of the term.

I have made some Ngram research here and looked up _poaching on Wikipedia, but that results haven't given me a satisfactory answer. As a result, I'm still puzzled.

According to Wikipedia, poaching is defined as:

the illegal hunting or capturing of wild animals.

Hence my question: can there be a legal and an illegal poaching?

Please let me know your thoughts on this.

PS: I am familiar with the word poaching since I first watched the movie Robin Hood, starring Kevin Costner, Elizabeth Mastrantonio, Morgan Freeman, etc., almost two decades ago.

meaning-in-context phrase-meaning vocabulary

share

edited 4 hours ago

J.R.♦

99.1k8127245

asked 4 hours ago

Lucian SavaLucian Sava

9,063113073

• 
  
  
  

  
  1
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  
  There are many pleonasms in daily use: temper tantrum, future prospects, foreign imports. It's best not to get too worked up about idioms; like other free gifts from the past, the English language is not absolutely perfect.
  
  – choster
  4 hours ago
  

  
  
  
  

add a comment | 

I heard the illegal poaching being uttered so many times in a TV show, about animals, that my ear of a non-native speaker, made me questioning the validity of the term.

I have made some Ngram research here and looked up _poaching on Wikipedia, but that results haven't given me a satisfactory answer. As a result, I'm still puzzled.

According to Wikipedia, poaching is defined as:

the illegal hunting or capturing of wild animals.

Hence my question: can there be a legal and an illegal poaching?

Please let me know your thoughts on this.

PS: I am familiar with the word poaching since I first watched the movie Robin Hood, starring Kevin Costner, Elizabeth Mastrantonio, Morgan Freeman, etc., almost two decades ago.

meaning-in-context phrase-meaning vocabulary

share

edited 4 hours ago

J.R.♦

99.1k8127245

asked 4 hours ago

Lucian SavaLucian Sava

9,063113073

share

edited 4 hours ago

J.R.♦

99.1k8127245

asked 4 hours ago

Lucian SavaLucian Sava

9,063113073

share

edited 4 hours ago

J.R.♦

99.1k8127245

asked 4 hours ago

Lucian SavaLucian Sava

9,063113073

edited 4 hours ago

J.R.♦

99.1k8127245

edited 4 hours ago

J.R.♦

99.1k8127245

asked 4 hours ago

Lucian SavaLucian Sava

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asked 4 hours ago

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Poaching is always illegal, so the adjective "illegal" is redundant. There is a (rare) word to describe this kind of redundancy: "Pleonastic". It means using more words than needed.

Many style guides recommend reducing redundancy in your writing: You should say "tuna" not "tuna fish". You should not say "the two twins" (since twins implies two) you do not need to say "new innovations" (since innovations are always new).

But pleonastic expressions are not ungrammatical, and some are very common and natural, especially in speech or less formal writing. Sometimes a writer will use a redundant word to emphasise a point.

There are three types of hunting: Legal trophy hunting, illegal poaching and subsistence hunting for food.

The author wants to emphasise and contrast trophy hunting, which is legal, with poaching, which is illegal.

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  Hares are classed as wild animals but still hunted for food not as a trophy...
  
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  What is your point? Lots of animals are hunted for food.
  
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The very definition of poaching contains the word "illegal", so it is a bit repetitive to say illegal poaching.

the illegal practice of trespassing on another's property to hunt or steal game without the landowner's permission.

Such repetitive constructions are used to add emphasis, but are not technically needed.

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Poaching is always illegal, so the adjective "illegal" is redundant. There is a (rare) word to describe this kind of redundancy: "Pleonastic". It means using more words than needed.

Many style guides recommend reducing redundancy in your writing: You should say "tuna" not "tuna fish". You should not say "the two twins" (since twins implies two) you do not need to say "new innovations" (since innovations are always new).

But pleonastic expressions are not ungrammatical, and some are very common and natural, especially in speech or less formal writing. Sometimes a writer will use a redundant word to emphasise a point.

There are three types of hunting: Legal trophy hunting, illegal poaching and subsistence hunting for food.

The author wants to emphasise and contrast trophy hunting, which is legal, with poaching, which is illegal.

share|improve this answer

answered 4 hours ago

James KJames K

37.3k13891

• 
  
  
  

  
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  
  Hares are classed as wild animals but still hunted for food not as a trophy...
  
  – Solar Mike
  3 hours ago
  

  
  
  
  


• 
  
  
  

  
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  
  What is your point? Lots of animals are hunted for food.
  
  – James K
  3 hours ago
  

  
  
  
  

add a comment | 

3

Poaching is always illegal, so the adjective "illegal" is redundant. There is a (rare) word to describe this kind of redundancy: "Pleonastic". It means using more words than needed.

Many style guides recommend reducing redundancy in your writing: You should say "tuna" not "tuna fish". You should not say "the two twins" (since twins implies two) you do not need to say "new innovations" (since innovations are always new).

But pleonastic expressions are not ungrammatical, and some are very common and natural, especially in speech or less formal writing. Sometimes a writer will use a redundant word to emphasise a point.

There are three types of hunting: Legal trophy hunting, illegal poaching and subsistence hunting for food.

The author wants to emphasise and contrast trophy hunting, which is legal, with poaching, which is illegal.

share|improve this answer

answered 4 hours ago

James KJames K

37.3k13891

• 
  
  
  

  
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  
  Hares are classed as wild animals but still hunted for food not as a trophy...
  
  – Solar Mike
  3 hours ago
  

  
  
  
  


• 
  
  
  

  
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  
  What is your point? Lots of animals are hunted for food.
  
  – James K
  3 hours ago
  

  
  
  
  

add a comment | 

Poaching is always illegal, so the adjective "illegal" is redundant. There is a (rare) word to describe this kind of redundancy: "Pleonastic". It means using more words than needed.

Many style guides recommend reducing redundancy in your writing: You should say "tuna" not "tuna fish". You should not say "the two twins" (since twins implies two) you do not need to say "new innovations" (since innovations are always new).

But pleonastic expressions are not ungrammatical, and some are very common and natural, especially in speech or less formal writing. Sometimes a writer will use a redundant word to emphasise a point.

There are three types of hunting: Legal trophy hunting, illegal poaching and subsistence hunting for food.

The author wants to emphasise and contrast trophy hunting, which is legal, with poaching, which is illegal.

share|improve this answer

answered 4 hours ago

James KJames K

37.3k13891

share|improve this answer

answered 4 hours ago

James KJames K

37.3k13891

answered 4 hours ago

James KJames K

37.3k13891

answered 4 hours ago

James KJames K

37.3k13891

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The very definition of poaching contains the word "illegal", so it is a bit repetitive to say illegal poaching.

the illegal practice of trespassing on another's property to hunt or steal game without the landowner's permission.

Such repetitive constructions are used to add emphasis, but are not technically needed.

share|improve this answer

answered 4 hours ago

JPhi1618JPhi1618

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add a comment | 

1

The very definition of poaching contains the word "illegal", so it is a bit repetitive to say illegal poaching.

the illegal practice of trespassing on another's property to hunt or steal game without the landowner's permission.

Such repetitive constructions are used to add emphasis, but are not technically needed.

share|improve this answer

answered 4 hours ago

JPhi1618JPhi1618

1113

add a comment | 

The very definition of poaching contains the word "illegal", so it is a bit repetitive to say illegal poaching.

the illegal practice of trespassing on another's property to hunt or steal game without the landowner's permission.

Such repetitive constructions are used to add emphasis, but are not technically needed.

share|improve this answer

answered 4 hours ago

JPhi1618JPhi1618

1113

share|improve this answer

answered 4 hours ago

JPhi1618JPhi1618

1113

answered 4 hours ago

JPhi1618JPhi1618

1113

answered 4 hours ago

JPhi1618JPhi1618

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